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    ailicec: clap clap! very well said!

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    Thanks vm for your insights, ailicec Much of what you said is the reality of.. stuff, for lack of a better word I truly feel that the work we do is actually very meaningful.

    I'm only into my 2nd year in T&D, summerain. And I'm no uni grad, not even MSO. My portfolio can sound impressive, eh? Haha, but no I'm no trainer. I'm doing mostly admin support work. Sorry I can't help you here.

    starz_du5t > ailicec has basically said it all. One can't simply say a job is good or bad without taking into account those factors listed by her. For instance: do you consider your admin job good? Why is it good, or bad? Oh yes, please intro yourself in the newbie thread in CozyLounge when you can. Welcome to CC!

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    actually i thinking of going into f&b line as a management trainee... my previous company asked me back coz i was with them as a part timer last time... i feel that admin job is very bored.. as for my admin job, i always doing photocopying.. once i was photocopying for 5hrs... i'm not sure whether i will face this kind of things in HR, so i would like to check it out...

    though i love f&b, but i nv go back coz of the irregular hours.. coz if i will to go back f&b now, i will be in f&b till i retire? its like no time for family next time... i thought of being a teacher too... but i really still not sure what i really want.. as i jud
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    I suppose when you're a part-timer, the job would usually just be about doing menial work. I can't speak for most work settings and I think it'd be foolish to think one does not have to get one's hands dirty once in a while. Esp when it's an entry-level job, I presume.

    On the topic of career path, I'm probably the last person who should dispense advice since I don't always subscribe to conventional practices. Never say never yet. Many of us have to go through quite a fair bit of trials and tribulations to land that 'perfect' job. Some might never reach that place; some could still be on the journey well into retirement. My advice is not any different from ailicec's in her last para. All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glossie View Post
    I'm only into my 2nd year in T&D, summerain. And I'm no uni grad, not even MSO. My portfolio can sound impressive, eh? Haha, but no I'm no trainer. I'm doing mostly admin support work. Sorry I can't help you here.
    Thanks Glossie for your reply . I do know training can be admin based or mixture of orientation / standup delivery of classes etc. Im rather interested to start off as an admin staff in T&D dept, doing coordination, scheduling classes etc or maybe more in depth. im not sure and these are only my rough idea and imagintation . But i note that alot of companies does not have this dept. Only those big companies have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starz_du5t View Post
    actually i thinking of going into f&b line as a management trainee... my previous company asked me back coz i was with them as a part timer last time... i feel that admin job is very bored.. as for my admin job, i always doing photocopying.. once i was photocopying for 5hrs... i'm not sure whether i will face this kind of things in HR, so i would like to check it out...

    though i love f&b, but i nv go back coz of the irregular hours.. coz if i will to go back f&b now, i will be in f&b till i retire? its like no time for family next time... i thought of being a teacher too... but i really still not sure what i really want.. as i jud
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    hi star dust. ya some admin duties those very basic one...are just very sian and boring..basically repeating the same thing over and over again..very dead....haha..

    haha being a teacher is not that easy. teaching may just be 30 or 40% of the jobscope of a teacher. but end of the day u see those kids face , can really make u forget all the stress that u are facing haha....

    teaching is for life and u must have the passion for it =p

    good luck.....jia you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ailicec View Post
    Then having said that, my ambition is actually to be a tai tai.....hahahahaha
    haha , u can marry off a rich husband then stay at home be a tai tai

    no need to go out work so jialat haha....

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    chemsium, i'm already married. but HB's current take home can only allows me to stay at home. i meant it literally. still a girl (ok ***, woman) should not give up her dreams hahahaha.

    for those who think admin jobs (or any others) are boring, think again.

    you can always discuss with your superior about your job. be more proactive and i'm sure your superior will appreciate it. if unfortunately, you superior refuses to/ or not making an effect to make your work more rewarding, it might be a good time to reconsider your job options. it is always a two-way street, both party must respect each other.

    so remember, ultimately it is up to YOU. if you don't like it, address the issue or you can always choose to walk away. i've colleagues who always grumble about their jobs, but yet refuses to bring up their unhappiness with their superior. so what happens? all the pending issues lower their morale and productivity level, and their superior to see them as underperforming.

    this is also becoming a crucial retention issue for HR . how to make their employees (especially talented and high performers) happy and stay in the company.

    In my previous company, we sort of did some informal feedback session with our employees. You will be surprised to discover that pay is only at #2. the top was the level of support from their superior and their career advancement in the company at #3.
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    Well, I sometimes call myself the employees' nanny!! muahahah!!

    and ya, sometimes HR needs to send out some emails that might not invite positive response and also make some decision that is not welcoming..but that's part of the nature of the job that I'm fully aware of..I'm not there to please everyone...the employees should be mature and professional enough to understand that these polices need to be put in place or some decisions have to be made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ailicec View Post
    chemsium, i'm already married. but HB's current take home can only allows me to stay at home. i meant it literally. still a girl (ok ***, woman) should not give up her dreams hahahaha.
    hahah your husband salary only allow u to stay at home....but as a woman u will spend alot on your shoppings right? so must go out work to substain abit ***? hahaahaha....

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    Got a call from a job agency today for a HR (compensation and benefits) job. She asked what is my expected starting pay... I said $2300... is that too high for someone with no relevant experience (my degree is in social science)?

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    Glad to know that there are cotters so keen in this industry. I have been in HR since graduation and have done almost all functions... so quite generalist.

    My interests now are in Learning & Development, Organisation Change & Development as well as Human Resource Information systems. Have done both Oracle and Peoplesoft implementations in both jobs, so one of the lucky few...

    Personally I think HR is a very dynamic career as it follows the job market demands. I travel quite a fair bit too and my job is really far from the mundane admin work and payroll.

    Many people still think HR is the mundane and stable sort of job, but I realise in my company, its very very dynamic and I have to be prepared for changes all the time.

    One of the best parts of the job is also the opportunity to work with senior management. Its really very exciting and challenging in this career.

    Of course, not forgetting ... the right company is key.
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    hi, is it possible to get into this field without prior experience or even relevant degree? I'm doing counselling now but thinking of changing line. What is the entry level kind of job? is it hr executive? thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollydolly View Post
    hi, is it possible to get into this field without prior experience or even relevant degree? I'm doing counselling now but thinking of changing line. What is the entry level kind of job? is it hr executive? thanks!
    shouldnt be a problem. in fact i have friends in engineering line hopping over to HR. Perhaps you can start off working as a contract staff to feel how's the work is like.

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    Hi, I'm a third-year business admin undergraduate with a keen interest in the HR field and am seeking intelligent ways to further my interest professionally as I would potentially like to make it my career.

    I felt that HR is appealing as it deals with the growth and management of human capital, not just selection and dismissal. Partly due to my previous ad-hoc job experiences in training and development (e.g. personal development camps), I became interested with the idea of growing/nurturing/teaching people on how to improve or better manage themselves as this area was previously not taught in schools but is in actuality an important part of one's growth. As I also have a strong background in events management (planning, negotiation as well as execution) and will be having a degree in business administration, I felt that HR is the sector of choice for me compared to other careers such as being a teacher.

    Nonetheless, despite having the above-mentioned skill sets and background, I have no HR job experience in my resume at the moment, so to speak. Thus, I was wondering if any gurus in the HR industry could suggest any advice of how/where I could possibly embark on a HR career in?

    I think I am more interested in the areas of T&D compared to recruitment. I heard that usually someone starts out in the HR industry by being a HR assistant doing the mundane aspects of HR such as payroll and immigration pass applications etc, then slowly work their way up the ranks to take on more mentally stimulating roles with the benefit of having a strong foundation in HR duties. Correct me if I have any misconceptions or left out something important to consider. I really appreciate all relevant feedback.
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